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The most important questions which need to be answered by Subud
Human Sacrifice – Human Error – LOVE
It’s not what we need to dredge up – selected complex details of over-long contentious debate. It is high time this problem was faced up to and acknowledged, and resolutions sought along the lines of openness, truth and justice.
Nobody wants to say what someone else doesn’t want to hear, so everyone has been silently conspiring to let incorrect facts assumptions remain upheld for 24 yrs.
The result is a good man’s life has been destroyed. Personal dreams and aspirations ruined. A quarter of a century of a life lost through struggle, fear and fighting for values that represent goodness and right action. Members dance on in free-fall abandon, as if in a state of brain-dead denial. Is there not one lesson to be learnt from this era, or does Subud wish to carry on walking along a path of self-destruction?
Others, with miserly characters, pick over the droppings from the cesspit of their own making. They select, with proud achievement, pickings from a huge pool. ‘We will present this and that and discredit them’. I say “BUNKUM!”
Do You Really Need ALL The Details in Public?
I challenge you all. Those who wish to believe they represent truth, well, pay for the site to be extended and maintained. It will cost you a lot, but I will release the day to day events of how the houses were saved. The WSC involvement, the involvement of Subud Britain. The high court actions fought and won. The names of members who were nice and those who were extremely nasty. I will, with glee, hang out the dirty washing and the true dark nature of those who profess to represent the Subud organisation in all its glory.
So gentlemen, are you up to the challenge? Do you really want the truth and establish who gave the most, who sacrificed the most and who did the most in this dire theatre of human error? A story of survival and courage. A story that went on for a decade and resulted in breakdown of health and quality of life. Do you really want to acknowledge those who stood for values that inspire and represent the true nature of the Founder of this unique organisation known as Subud?
We Need Openness about Anugraha
What we require to bring resolution, is openness in a constructive form. To know WHY Bapak’s hope for the future, represented in Anugraha – often referred to as his Mosque, but more useful – was dumped for £6.4M.
Who was involved in that decision and why it was taken? Are not the suffering and consequences important to everyone?
We need to clear the names of the innocent used as scapegoats, and place the responsibility firmly upon the shoulders of those responsible. We need to put an end to threats upon our life and all possibility of court cases that neither party can afford. We need to fully restore Andreas before he dies, without compromise, as he has given all. This is now becoming urgent as time is running out for us.
We need to act as Bapak intended, as a family that failed, but now has an opportunity to care again. To show the values that can only be expressed if Subud Members are sincerely receiving from God: LOVE.
In my post of Oct 20 2014, “Let me tell you a funny story…”, I wrote:
Will Ian Travis-Smith, MD of Anugraha at the time, or one of those who was on the Board with him, please now give us – in public – an explanation to account for that HUGE DIFFERENCE OF TEN MILLION POUNDS between what was offered and what was accepted.
No reply will understandably strengthen suspicions.
There has been no reply.
I now ask Ian Travers-Smith (apologies for having misspelt) to confirm or deny the allegation that he made it a condition of one or more of the offers for Anugraha that he, Ian Travers-Smith, be taken on as MD, a condition that was rejected and that caused the offer(s) to be withdrawn.
No denial will be interpreted as signifying that the allegation is no longer just a suspicion.
Let me tell you a funny story…
You don’t need to be a businessman to follow this simple story…
Someone tells you that he had two guys offer him £16 and £14 for his bike, but he decided not to sell to either of them. Then along came someone else who offered him £6 and he accepted. Credible story? That’s what you have been told – that offers to purchase Anugraha for £16 million and £14 million did not complete and instead, the place was got rid of to someone else for £6 million.
Rejecting selling at 16 and 14 and then selling for 6 needs an explanation. There has been no explanation, let alone a plausible explanation. 16 – 6 = 10. TEN MILLION POUNDS is a lot of cash.
Anugraha was OURS. It was bought with money from us, Subud members. We, which includes YOU, have a right, an absolute right, to an explanation.
Will Ian Travers-Smith, MD of Anugraha at the time, or one of those who was on the Board with him, please now give us – in public – an explanation to account for that HUGE DIFFERENCE OF TEN MILLION POUNDS between what was offered and what was accepted.
No reply will understandably strengthen suspicions.
An Important Question
The directors of Anugraha at the time of its loss by Subud were:
- Ian Travers-Smith – MD
- Howard Loch – Chairman
- R Heaslip
- R Prescott – Secretary
Would one of you answer what you have been asked to explain since Anugraha was lost:
Why were offers of £16 million and £14 million rejected and Anugraha disposed of for £6 million?
Even at £14 million everyone would have got their money back.
Avoidance of explaining arouses suspicions.
Scotland Yard Fraud Squad Interested
Scotland Yard were given evidence of what had been going on at Anugraha and the Fraud Squad agreed that there were sufficient grounds for an investigation. However, a short while later, we were informed that the investigation had been halted.
One of the accused was a multi-millionaire and the police in his home country advised the Yard that the methodology used by his team of solicitors was to introduce complication after complication to cause investigations into his affairs to become complex, protracted and very expensive.
The Scotland Yard Fraud Squad was advised, for financial reasons, not to proceed.
Subud NEVER held an investigation
In spite of the horrendous losses, those in positions of authority in Subud have never agreed to hold any investigation whatsoever. You may wonder why. Let’s just say that friends look after each other and that it’s useful to have powerful friends.
Is this the Subud you thought you were joining? are happy to belong to? In recent times several hundred have left in disgust. Change needs YOU to be aware, to be alert, to speak out, to have the courage to write what you think for others to read.
At a ladies latihan at Anugraha, Andreas witnessed Bapak stop the latihan and shout in furious anger that the ladies should stop trying to look and sound nice but should follow the true latihan which would make them GET UP AND DO SOMETHING.
Today, nice words abound but where are actions and achievements? Where are truth, justice and caring? Bapak stressed again and again that just doing the latihan is not enough.
Subud Members! We need your HELP!
If you think that Subud should help the Zyses before they are made homeless in a few months time, we need you to speak up loudly, to write clearly and publicly. Sorry to tell you, but if you remain silent it means you don’t care. We hope you DO care.
Subud is looked upon in some circles with considerable distaste, and is known to be corrupt. You can help restore it to where you know it should be, but not by remaining silent. If you care you must speak out – LOUDLY. I’m sure you don’t want to look back in the future and have to say “I did nothing”. Every voice counts – yes, even yours. PLEASE demonstrate that you care.
The Subud Organisation represents YOU.
Are they acting as YOU want them to act?
Yes, YOU matter, your voice counts – but only if you use it.